So lets just say its a personal choice and your way isnt better than mine, but I will never accidently shoot my leg or foot. The Glock handgun is the preferred handgun of police worldwide. Safe and ready when I am. It prevents the trigger from being manipulated unless a finger is pressing on it. 4) In such a rush and excitement even in a holster such as the case in Florida the police officer shot himself and the wall in a school and was clearly not in fear or stressed, so in all counts safety and training cause in the heat of the moment you may grab fast and shoot yourself. You always have time to do that. Some might even have second strike capability, which is the real holy grail. My God, WTF is wrong with people who bash others for simply doing what they choose to do? We can put a bullet thru the eye of a bunny sitting still but its hard to get a head shot when its running, us being the bunny. Even some shotguns will do that. A forum community dedicated to Glock Pistol owners and enthusiasts. While numbers vary, reacting to something - anything - takes a . On Amazon, they run about $35 just sans the NRA stamped door. But its hard to imagine a situation where a dropped gun firing into the ground could be a danger. OFC, most people would rather just follow the herd, but that isnt reasonable, logical, nor wise. . 30 years carrying, 20 in the military with 6 combat deployments. You do what you gotta do or are allowed to do. You'll want to train yourself one way or the other. Make that line above into: a solution in search of a problem. I own several safes, and none of them fit in my holster. Widen your horizons. Your taste is in your ass., Your brains (what little you have) are in your ass. The Glock 19 is one of the most popular models of Glock that is available on the market. Is It Safe To Carry A Round In the Chamber? Concealed Carry Everyday Im so glad to have seen the one person who never makes a mistake! if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'guntradition_com-leader-1','ezslot_8',113,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-leader-1-0');I do know one engineer who figured out that if it was dropped from 221 feet and it lands on the right angle squarely on its barrel, it could possibly go off, but the bullet would immediately strike the ground and not do much after that. WOW! Next, there was some discussion about GLOCKs. They ended up sticking to their story and making a big political deal out of it. If you need to defend yourself, you cannot afford the time to rack the slide. I have handguns that have a magazine safety I leave the mag out a 1/2 inch in the lock box and the mag cant be rammed home while in the box(like if it were dropped). Apply the 21 foot rule with the holy glock with a round chambered (Im pretty sure that as I was at the Vatican admiring Michelangelos ceiling, it was definitely a glock God was passing to Adam in the famous reclining scene), I bet you you will still lose just as badly. Considering how many types of expanding ammo my plethora of 1911s did not work very well with I gave up on them long ago. Whatever stage you carry your weapon at be consistent. The Glock if it came under the Governments Consumer Safety Council would never have been allowed on the market. Nor with his next, more significant error, suggesting that floating or inertial firing pin guns (like a 1911) ARE drop safe with a round in the chamber, even though all such firearms with a round in the chamber WILL fire if dropped on their muzzle? Fuck off gov. I was shown( Thank You RES), yank that sucker out, moveaim, fire. Carry it in your home in the holster you're going to use in public, without a round in the chamber, but with the striker in the ready position or "cocked" and see if you have an issue with the trigger being pulled. Glock - Wikipedia Thats a bunch of bologna written by writers who know nothing about guns. I dont have to hit a bypass cause its cocked, or turn off a safety, just pump and fire. So that argument is irrelevant. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[468,60],'guntradition_com-large-leaderboard-2','ezslot_2',112,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-large-leaderboard-2-0');I, as well as others, have tested and tried to get the Safe Action System, to fail but without actually modifying parts, we havent been able to. First a 5906, then a PPK/S for 20 years. A GLOCK is a striker fired pistol with about a 5.5-pound OEM trigger pull that has incorporated into the trigger--in the form of a lever--and when it is engaged blocks the trigger from moving rearward. You may need your weak side arm to hold an attacker at bay while you draw, etc. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. And that is the key to any methodology, simply having the proper training. The Gen 5 Glock pistol is the latest generation in the Glock household. 5 Reasons Not to Carry a Gun with An Empty Chamber Is A Glock Safe To Carry Chambered. But unlike the Shield Plus, the Equalizerlike the Shield EZis a single-action as opposed to striker-fired pistol. Not exactly. You carry your way and Ill carry mine. Because they have no external safety, Glocks are quicker to draw and fire. I thought I counted 17 in the battle scene in Open Range. Some folks in the comments section raised objections, as they are often wont to do. Perfect for everyday carry, the compact Glock 43 is a popular concealed carry option chambered in 9mm. The end result is the same, but the means to that end are directly opposite in how they function. There are any number of guns out there with firing systems that, if dropped, will fire a round under the hammer. It may be injured or busy striking or holding back children, etc. And I include all the copy cat weapons as well as they are as common as the common cold. and yes i train and rehearse that Modern shooter often often dont want to fiddle with something complex. These Glocks have been beat to death and not once has the gun " fired " without some sort of trigger manipulation. It wont matter if the slide is in battery or not. and you can have a hammer strap optioned for anything with a hammer except dao. On the other hand, most other striker-fired pistols count on the recoil spring to cock the striker. Unfortunately, some may not and I have no idea which do and which do not. Two is one, one is none. If you cant train yourself to keep your finger off the trigger until you have made the decision to shoot any gun is dangerous in your hands. Of course theres a difference between driving and shooting. As stated above, Glocks are safe. It is generally safe to carry a Glock with a round in the chamber, as long as the user follows proper handling and safety protocols. @ mark s: +1 here. Second Amendment to the US Constitution, "Get yourself a Glock and lose that nickel plated sissy pistol." If my chamber is empty, I obviously increase the chances that my gun wont be useful when needed, but I also reduce the chance of a ND caused by a minor in my care. Even though everyone who has ever used and examined a SA revolver can easily see that the firing pin is ALWAYS in contact with the primer when the hammer is down, if the chamber under it has a round in it? Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! But thats good. Cycling against objects using your sight is slow and not easily done. I thing Mossad guys are well trained, just saying. For the most part.if the gun goes offsomeone pulled the trigger. Seems more in line with your abilities. Unfortunately, the safety is on the wrong side of the slide for me so I dont use it. It's a mental block you will have to outgrow. THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY AND ONLY ONE WAY TO CARRY A GLOCK SAFELY AND THAT IS WITH AN EMPTY CHAMBER PERIOD AND THERE CAN BE ZERO ARGUMENT ABOUT THAT IF YOU ARE STILL IN CONTROL OF YOUR MENTAL FACULTIES AND NOT LIVING IN A NARCISSISTIC FANTASY WORLD OF GLOCK UTOPIA. The 223/5.56 is the most common centerfire rifle cartridge in the US. I think five guns is the bare minimum, and thats how I always answer the one gun question. Barrel: 4.5. It should stay the way it is. Perhaps you could write one yourself even. That was a few years ago now. As a matter of fact in an extreme emergency you could carry the HK with no holster and in your pocket or even waist band but if you did the same thing with a Glock you would quickly blow your balls off in short order. Jun 4, 2009. about carrying or keeping a gun with a round in the chamber. Height: 5.4. Glocks have a trigger pull of 5-1/2 to 6 pounds. This Glock pistol does have a super-slim . Now getting older, I have trouble with body positions for competitions, so I dont enter very many club competitions anymore. Five years ago I reviewed the Glock 43, the second pistol in Glock's "Slimline" series of thin grip pistols. Not the first time I have seen you feed the gun grabbers agenda either. You can get a lockbox for $50 or less from Amazon or from most hardware stores. Must not be working on it very hard. My G19 pull is about 4-1/2# about the same as a lot of 1911 guns. Because they have no external safety, Glocks are quicker to draw and fire. In the case of the 43X, the barrel is 87mm or 3.41 inches long. Which glocks are the best for concealed carry? - Police1 Furthermore, every person I know or have talked to who does have a single-action revolver Rough Rider, Blackhawk or a replica has other guns that they use for those roles. And my Glock 17. On paper? I carry locked, loaded with a extra clip close by. The general answer is most certainly yes however there are a few considerations. When I was a lot younger, I was riding horses with some friends. Didnt fire..interesting. My Glock 23 is fully loaded, and no problems at all, even with the 3.5 connector in it that lightens the trigger pull a bit. The others can safely be carried with a round under the hammer, with little to no chance of firing if the hammer should be hit or snagged. I know, its a big word, all scary long and has lots of syllables, but try it out. Absolutely YES!! However, it is not unusual for some new to guns like Glocks to be concerned about carrying a round chambered. YouTube it. But no self-defense. I notice that you had to go look it up though. Just that for most every use, there are other choices that are better. I have a CCW and am carrying the Glock in a Galco Stow-n-Go IWB holster. One of the interesting things about that is I can (after clearing) dry fire repeatedly and get a rough visual about how much the aim point moves depending on my grip and finger position. If you want a common username better grab it quick though. Just not for me. Carrying a Glock 26 or 27 in "conditon 1" (chambered) is comparable to carrying a loaded S&W Jframe revolver. Some people were never meant to have a handgun I suppose. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Still no safety. Am I being silly? If dropped, the hammer could contact the primer and therefore, fire. Whats a fleshlight? No wait . Thats a lot more true to life (in my admittedly inexperienced opinion) than most movies, especially westerns. If you did not realize the design is dangerous, you would not have spent so much time belaboring the obvious. Carried chambered until the kids came. Colt change the SAA!? . Is it Safed to Carry a Glock With one in the Chamber I dont know how high Id have to go to get it to ignite, but I figure Im never going to carry my piece 8+ off the floor, (seeing as how thats the height of most ceilings). Concerning long guns that are stored for home defense, I think that "cruiser ready" is the ideal state of readiness for rifles or shotguns. There is at least one fully loaded firearm in every room of my house and my shop. you would do well to keep in mind that some people dont carry with a round in the chamber not because theyre so afraid or lack of training but because simply of where they live and the laws that exist there if they did they would be constantly administratively chambering and unchambering a round throughout their day while doing so in their vehicle A 2A focused forum that patronizes a troll like VLAD is as questionable as the NRA in its current form. People who ride a motorcycle to work know damn well their chances of being seriously hurt in an accident is astronomically higher than driving a Pick up truck to work. CCW - Is it Better To Carry With a Round Chambered or Not? Many striker/plastic pistols, like the S&W Sygma, have actual DA triggers, that do not use glocks UN safe-action trigger scheme. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. This is especially true when it comes to the popular Glock line of handguns. Boy, that must be realllll nice. As a top performer in reliability and safety tests, it quickly entered into the Austrian military and police service. People are going to make mistakes but when you design a tool as unsafe as the Glock its not a maybe they will have an accidental discharge its a fking fact that sooner or later they will. For those of you that don't know, "Israeli Carry" is the practice carrying a pistol without a round in the chamber. Heres how all of this bogus started. Glocks dont have an external safety because they were designed as a simple to operate as possible. The reason was that there wasnt anything between the hammer and either the nipple or the primer of the cartridge. Revolvers with their heavy double action trigger pulls are perfectly safe to carry with a round in the . A 16 year old In drivers ed may not be very experienced nor skilled, but at least in my day, was paying more attention than a driver more familiar with driving. Its funny how a pimp like VLAD TEPES is accepted and sometimes glorified for his rhetoric of cut and paste (fake news) values but a person who simply chooses a different way of carrying is villified and demonized by those who scream for personal freedom. Good username though. Mine, of course, is in the latter, and it's held up well to a lot of shooting. Oh - And my Cobra .22 has one round in EACH chamber. My point is that I see no benefit in limiting my defensive options. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'guntradition_com-large-mobile-banner-2','ezslot_5',119,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-large-mobile-banner-2-0');The danger comes from dangerous gun handling and not following safe gun handling rules. Apparently the last time it worked. Mad about covers it. Same here. Dont you dare break the three rules of safe gun handling. You learned something. In fact, it uses S&W Shield Plus magazines. Hell, try it with a taser. 3 your support hand may not be available. So the trigger pull is utterly irrelevant *if* you are paying attention to your firearm which you should be doing, again, with *any* firearm. I wouldnt have or carry any with a non hot pipe, but thats just me. Glocks have a blade in the trigger that is very light so that if the pistol is dropped, the inertia of the fall will not pull the trigger ( as the pistol is partially cocked). Is a cheap one as good as a safe from, say, a Liberty or Rhino? I home carry, but as far as pistol lockboxes go, I recommend the Fort Knox (top opening lid) and the Sentry Safe with biometric lock (also has a key and keypad). Theres a problem with absolutism: youre proven wrong too easily. And yes, I have done trigger work on 2 of my 3 Glocks. Unlikely. It can also affect the speed at which the weapon fires. And I do not carry them ever. 1 you many not have time to chamber. It appears to me that Darwin and his theory of evolution is again being ignored, if you are dumb enough to carry without forethought, please ace yourself before you breed. This debate has been going on for years.. which side are you on? If you have a modern weapon in a holster that covers the trigger, you are in pretty good shape. A lot of guns, particularly the early revolvers, were considered too dangerous to carry with a loaded chamber . I help equip people with knowledge and skills so they can be safe and effective with firearms. Much longer than a Glock, twice as heavy as a Glock. Brain farts are a universal malady that effects 100% of all humans and the Glock and its clones are probably the least idiot proof handgun ever invented. There is an old article in the LA Times and National Intrest that claims Glocks are accident-prone and overly dangerous pistols. They have defense of the State, of their comrades, or of other citizens. You hit the nail on the head with "comfortable", but that is subjective. Why would anyone want only one of something? I dont expect hardware (or software) to compensate for a persons stupidity, as opposed to the opinion of many other people who think it should. Mr Hoober, If you werent too busy arrogantly doubling down, you might consider trying it some time instead of pretending you know everything but I suppose you are probably more interested in getting audience engagement than giving good advice. I'm not exactly a diehard with pistol-caliber carbines but I definitely enjoy them. Carrying this way isn't for everybody though. His response could be ro shoot you with your gun. This is the inherit design of a sticker fired pistol. One never knows who one is talking to. No external safey, DA trigger that goes bang when you pull it.. If my shooting was up to par with my driving Id be like Lena Miculek. In the absence of further information, which is never forthcoming, the logical conclusion is: They dont want to fix it. Congratulations. Are Glocks Safe To Carry Chambered - BubbleSub
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