Make sure you understand where that line is. Questions & Answers: What am I supposed to think about during the sacrament? They always see what they havent done instead of what they have because they are constantly reminded of what they should be doing. I am infertile, though I now have three children through adoption. My worst MD talk came in the Fast and Testimony meeting the week before in which my father, who was visiting since he no longer lived in our ward, decided to give some incredibly intimate details about his divorce and why he blamed it on several of his children, but not others. Can anyone say overdone? Sacrament meeting is the term for a regular Latter-day Saint worship service, usually held each week on Sunday, where the sacrament (similar to communion) is offered to the members of the Church. It is even worse when women are so enthused with Father's Day that they want to ignore it completely - as in absolutely not mention it. Ere the sun goes down. Does this mean that finally..a talk could be about our Heavenly Mothers? Put me in the column of those who think Sacrament Meeting should be about Christ. It hits pretty close because Im one of those lucky people who get to speak on Mothers Day this year. I have been called by God to be there and that is where I should be. More importantly, which meeting do you thinkwould be more likely to provide meaningful support? Show me a sinless mother and she can be my ideal too. I have an aversion to bringing my family's celebration intochurch and causing other women pain. In the spirit of the quib in #21 we should just cancel these commercial holidays. Gospel Q&A: Can Satan Hear Our Prayers? rockpond We speak about it nearly every Sunday. 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Up til now, I have endured going because I thought I had to. Mrs. Gui, All the little Guis and their little Guis, the violin, photography, Prokofiev, Mahler, Terry Pratchett, Patrick OBrian, Umberto Eco, sci-fi and fantasy, Brigham Young, playing Bluegrass with real Kentuckians. Many said not to assign "mother" or "female" focused messages in sacrament meeting, others said to keep your efforts simple as long as it is sincere. Many times, it seems bishoprics want to put women on a pedestal for a day, while trying not to offend anyone. Pertaining to gifts: #53 Im against handing out plants on Mothers Day. Our new bishop, for the last three years, gave no gift or acknowledgement. Your ward contains women at various stages of their lives, including some who dont have children and never will. I just dont like when they push the plant on me after Ive politely declined it. At first I was wishing that I wasnt, but after thinking and praying about it for a few weeks and speaking with friends and family, Im rather excited about it. I have no aversion to motherhood being spoken of in church. Although with good intentions, speakers usually put mothers and motherhood on a pedestal ("Mothers are loving and caring and naturally nurturing", "A mother's love is the closest thing to Christlike love on earth", "No mother is perfect, except my mom, who is literally an . The sacrament provides an opportunity for Church members to ponder and remember with gratitude the life, ministry, and Atonement of the Son of God. If they give out a plant that I can put in the ground, Ill be sad to miss that, though. The hard part for me is when I hear talks about angel mothers where I actually know whom they are talking about. But arent mothers also sweet, like cookies? A break from the primary room!) Those were the kinds of talks I gave, and thats what I would rather listen to. #37 Now that you mention it, Uchtdorf is pretty Hallmarky. Along with activities and programs during the week, Latter-day Saints gather on Sundays for an approximately hour-long "sacrament" meeting, where men, women and younger members offer prayers and give sermons, sing hymns and partake of the sacrament (similar to receiving communion). Yeah, it would be pretty late to be thinking about music now. 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It isnt uncommon for LDS women to be dealing with some combination of the following factors: a difficult marriage, no marriage, no children, difficult children, health problems, loss of faith. An ideal is fine to have in your own life, but imo it is dangerous to attempt to have one for a worldwide religious organization. Elder Ballard lists three ways mothers can do that; first, is realizing joy comes in moments, second is to not overschedule children, and third, to find time to cultivate talents and interests. I Know I would like Mothers Day more if they changed the official hymn of the day from Love at Home to this one (to be sung from the perspective of the mother): 1. Please know that it is worth it then, now, and forever.. She is buried in the same plot as my great-grandmother as well so it was nice to be able to be there with them again. Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Cannot load blog information at this time. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. 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A BIGTHANK YOU to Heather Mecham for compiling all the results from this survey. I'd had a challenging morning, but somehow, my 3-year-old-daughter was decked out and ready for church on time. Not necessarily mothersjust women. There are wrongs that need redressing Can they not celebrate their own mothers? There have been one or two General Conference talks in the last couple of years that briefly addressed that situation. Alece, I also love CS Lewis, and agree that we should look to higher ground in our mortal journey. In the UK, my experience has been that sacrament has at least one talk and often a few. My husband told me to stop focusing on myself and think about who mothered me instead. It demands that the single day of the year that Mother's are celebrated to a holiday that is solely for adult females and no one else. Thanks for the reminder. You dont come, you dont get one. Ere the sun goes down. Im sure that attendance in RS would be higher on that day though. Why are women so disenchanted with motherhood when we value it so highly? Talk topics could be: - examples in the scriptures (Eve, Ruth, Naomi, Esther, Sarah, Mary, Sariah, etc), - early Saints (Lucy Mack, Emma, Eliza R Snow, Aurelia Rogers, etc), - influence of (teachers, nurses, aunts, grandmas, etc). It hasnt yet. Where everyone else is happy and interested in celebrating motherhood - those terrible males and those rancorous children in particular - they need to be denied for "me" and "what I want". There are sins that need confessing; Now they never had fought, yet they did not fear death; and they did think more upon the liberty of their fathers than they did upon their . Not that I am anything special, but I gave a Mother's Day talk when I was a bishop that was so well-received even my own mother loved it. Maybe. A day focused on mothers is hard enough for many women, and much more so when thats all they hear about at church. One year they handed out Sheri Dews talk Are We Not All Mothers? and I thought that was cool. Aleah Ingram Come on. That being said, my ward will be nice and quiet next Sunday, one of the joys of the YSA wards. I wont be attending this Sunday either, but as always will honor my own mother by being the best mother I can be to my hurting children. But I certainly enjoyed the beauty of the whole situation and was very glad to see so many young peole in the Church on Sunday. This is what I need for . She talked about how her convert mother negotiated church attendance with her inactive husband, how she brought the gospel into the home to the extent she could while maintaining close family ties and coping with her own faith struggles, and how her example and choices blessed her home. from Pres. anon, pretty sure hearing about an old guys non-existent sex life is worse. You then leap to classifying it a family celebration rather than a national holiday. But I realize others prefer plants. Why shouldn't women be those who teach about the glory of god that is woman? Just a thought. Im grateful for it. How did your Mother's Day Sacrament meeting turnout, Rockpond? 3. You might drift over to what has been considered the rebuttal of Mothers Who Know given at the next conference session by Elder Ballard. But since youre not, Im bowing out this year. I just read that talk again; and I see nothing wrong with it. They would eat honey cakes and give flowers. http://mormonartist.net/2012/02/day-three-jeanna-stay/. Although I like the idea of them as well! In addition, there are doctrinal and scriptural classes for . We like to celebrate mothers in the Church and we like to ignore fatherhood. So how does tax exemption relate to churches, and especially churches that [], You are so much more than the worst thing youve everdone., http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2008/04/daughters-of-god?lang=eng, http://dandelionmama.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/this-this-is-what-i-believe/, Inside the UK's Mormon missionary bootcamp - BBC, Former mayor, LDS bishop gets prison for child sex abuse - Salt Lake Tribune, The anti-racist Mormon trying to teach his fellow LDS church members - NPR, Mormon Church fined over claim it hid $32bn of investments - BBC, Linda King Newell, Feminist Scholar of Mormon History, Dies at 82 - The New York Times. when she becomes a God like I know she will she will be an inspriation to all ladys, Kind of it takes a village/ward to raise a child philosophy. Sorry I missed that. I'm fascinated by these two suggestions because I was leaning toward only having youth and men speak so that all the mothers had the day off. If So, Should We Pray Out Loud? A cookie in a baggie? We once had a bishop hand out frozen TV dinners! We were each handed full size chocolate bars that had been wrapped at the end of Sac Mtng. How about honoring our mothers by not just focusing on what they do or have done for us (guilt trip for those that feel they never do enough) but focus on ways the members can help their mothers throughout each stage of their life. It was a great idea and something I will always remember and a great way to honor mothers on Mothers Day. That said, I cant say I recall ever hearing a bad Mothers Day talk. I know some women get upset because they arent mothers, but it doesnt bother me. Or better yet, teach their classes and let them attend RS for a day? Aleah is a graduate of Southern Virginia University, where she studied English, Creative Writing, and Dance. It falls short when it is not delivered with love, patience, acceptance, humility, an understanding of the limitations of REALITY, and the the Gift of the Holy Ghost. It seems sometimes that activity organizers believe somehow that no one will participate if not bribed by pizza, pop, potato chips or pie. The perfect hymn for Mothers Day Sacrament meeting. Great, and I was just asked to talk on Sunday, I guess I will be very careful. This ordinance is an essential part of worship and spiritual development. Integrate how Jesus takes care of his mother's future well being while hanging on the cross with the scripture John 19:26-27. A later version of the holiday occurred in Europe where they would celebrate the Mother Church (the church as the bride of Christ and as the mother of their spiritual rebirth through baptism) and they would decorate the church with flowers and jewels. Sabbath Day Scriptures Scripture References Doctrine and Covenants 59:9-12 Scripture Study Resources Topical Guide, "Assembly for Worship" This post should be required reading for all Mothers Day speakers. I've done this in past years but always enjoy the new ideas from the participants here As I plan our Mother's Day Sacrament Meeting, what have been your favorite talk topics for Mother's Day? Beautiful. THE major Mothers Day talk in Sacrament Meeting in our ward this week, I have forwarded all of this discussion on to him! Seriously, it would be nice to have some idea. Through this ordinance, Church members renew the covenants they made with God when they were baptized. When we value families so strongly we should celebrate the roles of motherhood and fatherhood. It is awkward for those who are NOT mothers and I don't think fathers get their due comparibly. Cant we just give praise and gratitude for the atonement, and human goodness and resiliance inspite its adversity and imperfection? Nothing, wakes people up in sacrament meeting like talking about chimpanzees dismembering each other. I would be all for that. I dont recall what the men are given on Fathers Day, but at one time in my ward they gave them nice ball point pens. I personally am skeptical of ever looking to people for ideals. To be fair, diabetics can eat chocolate. If you want to hear from real women who haveread scriptures andheld FHEand family prayer, but whose son is in jail or whose 16-year-old daughter is pregnant or whose husband has left her, then you should meet in the cultural hall. However, the restored gospel is true and is a steady guide for us in nagivating the oftimes foggy seas of life. I found out the hard way after a long list of them declined to give the talk. I had some ideas but didn't want to repeat anything that had already been done from the Primary. Last time I spoke on Mother's Day I was texting during my talk. This talk by Elaine S. Dalton helps fathers understand the importance of loving and cherishing the women in their life. I am confident that a poll ofactive Mormons would show that Mothers Day sacrament meeting is, hands down, the one meeting of the year most fraught with difficulty for the people who attend. She was not worthy of any review from me. But shes never experienced the horrors I have where the local ward nut case talks about how his wife isnt putting out thanks to menopause. It was a nice meeting. Uchtdorf. The second is about a mother who diligently loved her son as he struggled with same-sex attraction and labored him through his despair. I cant remember the last time I heard a bad sacrament meeting talk, period. #16 They asked him to speak again?! The Puritans werent big on celebrations, so they dropped it when they colonized Massachussetts. See also What to Expect at Church Services. I can only pray no one will take offense, as I certainly never mean any offense. She loved us unconditionally heart and soul. I have to go home right after Sacrament meeting, because the Sisters all bring their flowers with them to the other meetings. This talk teaches us how rearing up children in righteousness can help keep them safe in an increasingly wicked world and how what happens in the home can benefit communities and nations. I already have felt many of the concerns expressed, and approach this assignment with fear and trembling. It will easily demonstrate the weaknesses in the position: The logic is faulty. Why can't we let women celebrate it how they want at home and focus on Christ at church? Thats why youve been my cyber-crush for years. May 2011 was the best mothers day sacrament mtg Ive ever attended. How could I forget? Mtg. Trust her. I should clarify that my mother (and father) are wonderful and I have no complaints. When her dad found out that there was a whole lottashakin goin on without him, he summarily divorced his adulterous wife and took the children to live with him. I'd suggest that women at various stages in their lives speaking about what the joy in womanhood, being a divine daughter of God means to them in different stages of life, would at least eliminate all that talk and honor of mothers who have lots of children and do everything right that cause so much pain to women everywhere. The Barker Brothers' Projects These videos were created for Latter-day Saint parents and allies to voice their love for their LGBT brothers and sisters, sons and daughters. Im sort of hoping that the person before me goes too long and I have to wrap up with my testimony. Personally, I like cookies. Do you also not need an idea such as the Savior, your Father in Heaven or your Heavenly Mother? Just after she became a beehive, her mother had an affair. All I think this is one of the most confusing topics for men in the church. Disciples should take this personal holiday to their own homes to celebrate it when and how they choose. Also waiting by the library's tiny window with the Dutch door was a . More importantly, what impact does this conscious attempt to devalue motherhood within our community have on the future of the family? And this is all in addition to the everyday problems like getting the bills paid and the laundry done. We got a response from172 females and 51 males. Honest! Isnt it reasonable to think that Abe is trying a little too hard, and might be overcompensating for something? Alece, its usually when the admins sense that the conversation is no longer productive, or when we dont have time or patience to keep monitoring the thread. It is a simple answer, and it is trueThe most important thing a father can do for his [daughter] is to love [her] mother.'. Thanks. He chose to base his talk on To The Mothers In Zion, and used it to essentially chastise and condemn working women, and it sent half the ward fuming into the bishops office. Give the gift of time. I think its good to have something to air at! Please use the comments to make your own contributions. And, even worse, we are also cutting them off from the grace and redemption that Jesus offers. When I was bishop, my bishopric would always serve pie during the third hour and Id invite my mom to attend. Although Mothers Day is not fraught for me the way it is for so many, I will be watching with interest next Sunday to see which way our meeitng falls. So for over a decade, Ive loved Mothers Day, just because I know it wont end with all of us crying. Then the clincher, it is only for women to celebrate and they need to be left alone to celebrate it as they demand and see fit. I too am irritated by mother-worshipping in MD talks, but at the same time, I think many Mormon women identify so strongly with being a mother and so many have sacrificed just about everything to focus on that specific role, that they really appreciate a little validation, a little boost of confidence that what theyre doing is significant and has meaning. Let us take as self-evident that, in reality, not all women are naturally pure or spiritual. This change wasnt well-received as it occurred without any advance notice. Preparation Print the song pages. The water is a reminder that the Savior shed His blood in intense spiritual suffering and anguish, beginning in the Garden of Gethsemane and concluding on the cross. Well, I wont bore you with all the mediocre talks over the years, I will just tell you that the best song for MD from the primary children was Armies of Helaman. Why was she an ideal? So I will be going to church on Sunday, even though I never go to church, so I can remember my mother, who was never a Mormon. Last year we did two songs for the Mother's Day sacrament meeting, and they turned out beautifully, so I thought I would share them with you. My kids are too old for primary and dont go to church anyway (and my mother died when my youngest was 2 yrs old), so I have no reason to go and hear all about how perfect someone else is, or that I should have been perfect, or the lie that all of us mothers are perfect. I may have to borrow that. But these are good points. So this year we are setting up tables and chairs in the gym, hauling in meat and cheese and veggies and chocolate, and the Bishop will talk for five minutes and then we will let everybody socialize while I play the tuba for the entire primary. Variations included a verse for when mommy comes home stoned, with descriptions of bratty violent Mormon children and a terrible version only whispered with stifled giggles including titillating, lolita overtones. Identifying ideals is somehow so treacherous for the psyches of women that that must never be mentioned? I remember something I was told many years ago by a young man in Provo, UT. Plus, I thought it was extra cool that the Bish consulted the RS pres. Im asking this out of genuine curiosity/responsibility for handing stuff out. The best Mothers Day talk Ive ever heard was an illustration of this principle. Have You Discovered the Love of The Everyday Christ? I was asked to speak 3 times on MD during my infertility phase. American LDS women who attended Sacrament Meeting were told that they have a lot of innate qualities, such as being righteous, spiritual, pure, or nurturing. Further, that it wasnt the wards responsibility to celebrate the day. Ill be checking back! Although, I hate how as a single man, some married women run from me cause they think Im going to try to seduce them or something.
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