composite lilith in 12th house

Our composite mars is in cancer in the 12 house. I dont know if what we have count as a heavy 12th house but we have our north nodes in the 12th with vesta in virgo, and our south nodes in the 6th with the vertex in pisces. The diurnal chart's house cusps will also conjunct progressed and directed planets throughout the year and can mark significant days. Composite, Davison Chart . Forget about where his planets fall in your houses and instead, put your natal chart around the chart of the composite, then do the same with his. Me and my friend have composite sun conj. We are still friends and well always love each other. We have a meaningful journey to take together, but we must ultimately be alone. The lower expression has to be elevated, and the higher expression needs to be realized. There is, without a doubt, an element of longing in the 12th. Mars and Pluto certainly do about Scorpio. You mentioned that couples with 12th house emphasis usually come together for a specific purpose and once that is completed the relationship is destined to end (thats what I gathered anyway). Our physical connection was addicting. With Libra in 12th House, your past life may not be that pleasant. It has felt fated, mesmerizing, seductive, magnetic and karmic. So, the composite Venus and Saturn are also in the 12th house. This is where our own shadow meets the shadow of the collective. This is my take on signs that have two rulersthere is a higher expression and a lower expression of the signs energy. (I have my moon in Scorpio in the 12th house along with Saturn and Pluto). Through the sixth house, you must learn to function in the world efficiently and take up the calling to serve Humanity. thanks Dawn for your reply. Hes Gemini sun . They help us understand that our capacity to love is its own reward. Very exquisitely put. I thought I had become delusional, making things up in my head. Black Moon Lilith is the geometric point in the sky that marks the furthest point of the moon's orbit around the earth. There is also Mercury in Taurus at 12 degrees, but this is in the 1st. I have a 12th house Capricorn stellium and my husband and I also have a composite 12th house Capricorn stellium. That I could be around someone and not feel uncomfortable. (I have never done anything like that with anyone else.) And now we come to the house that causes more furrowed brows than any other. In Our composite chart Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter and Chiron in the 12 house. 1) Planetary house overlays (1, 5, 7, 8, 9 = most important) 2) Planetary aspects. There are no connections with saturn to make it harsh. There are lots of couples with heavy 12th house influence who are out in the open. Hi Evelyne. The 12th house conjunction in Cancer indicates that there is a nurturing issue between you that needs resolving. you are right on target- although I forgot to mention that our trine is in 4th,8th and 12th you are an amazing teacher and your articales on your site have helped me tremendously. In Astrology, the planet Venus represents compassion, cooperation, beauty, and the Arts. me and this guy who dont know each other properly have same ascendants and house cusps natally. More, we have a 5 cluster Scorpio in 9 (Moon, Venus, Neptune, Jupiter and Mercury), a composite Sun in Sag in 10, with Pluto and Uranus conjunct in 7 and unaspectted Gemini NN in 4 we also have a lot of 6/12 house contacts in synastry and 21 conjunctions (far from being easy!) Am i trapping my self? I have 12th house with my partner, but also many Saturn and Pluto Aspects. So sad! Im afraid I cant get into it in this space (in the synastry course, we spend several lessons comparing the midpoint and Davison charts). I feel like I never want tk part from this man. A Venus/Mars conjunction in Taurus can be a beautiful thing. In our synastry chart, we also have exact Chiron/Venus opposition. I dont know if he felt the same deep feelings but I know he was puzzled by the sex. North Node conjuncts Desc. I think the fact that were both artists gave this aspect an outlet. This can happen in composites of unrequited love, where one person loves another who doesnt know he or she exists. It often helps to work together on projects they find meaningful, or to spend some time doing community or charity work. We fall, and find the world. I met with a guy 2 months ago and when we saw each other, -there is no doubt that- we were both fascinated by each other. But someone who tells you they love you every day and tries to break up with you every month is clearly not. I found composite Saturn on the 12th house, trining the composite Sun/Venus/Merc on the 8th and sextile to the Moon on the 2nd. The story of your inability to connect probably has more to do with your individual chart comparisons than the composite chart. In traditional astrology, the 12 th house is known as the house of Bad Spirit. i am deeply hurt but I am not angry with him. I can honestly say that I love this man from the highest level of my being, but I dont feel we belong together in a committed relationship. He literally proposed to me the night we met. Guess our trines from Sun/Moon to Jupiter arent enough to off set. (Because the moon's orbit is elliptical, it has two center . That was over three years ago. Most of my relationships are like that . They rip the rug from under you every other day. What is the best approach? Whatever I told you would not have a context. The eight house is the house of Scorpio, and alongside the twelfth house is the most spiritual and mysterious. We also have 3 composite planets and an asteroid in house 8. . Im not wanting to drag him to the floor yet. I became reacquainted with a man I grew up with. I thought that because of the 8th house or vertex, I forced him to confront his own dark side. I dont know why but i love him so much and sometimes I come up with things like dreaming of him to call me after a while he calls me. Transit Saturn in the Composite 12th House. In the composite only our venus and moon are conjunct in the 12th. The fatedness of it all doesnt make sense at times, like union of the subconscious. Because thats what it feels like! )~~~a reader with Sun in Neptune and Saturn and Mars both in 12th house. Its a damn shame, but I cant make him more a more spiritual person, just because our powerful connection together is deep and spiritual. Oh, and we have a 7 year old son. It shapes the relationship between two persons. The empty space in Aries, would that be the outlet or where to focus all that energy? Something is whispering in their ears. What would you say about a composite Scorpio Juno in the 12th house, conjunct to the asteroid Valentine and squaring the north and south node? Lilith in the 12th House. Sometimes the twelfth house energies become lost, and we create false gods from what we cannot find within us (for example, those with Leo on the 12th house cusp may worship creative expression, but not be able to find it in themselves). thanks!! Having someone else's planets in these houses (especially the 5 th, 7 th, and 8 th houses), conjunct the Vertex or not, indicate a high level of compatibility and intimacy. Both of us are on a spiritual path, which is very important to each of us. :In a composite chart: What does it mean when both people have juno in the 12 House? I can no longer approach love as wholeheartedly again. His 12th is in Pisces, along with his Sun, Mercury, Venus and Mars. What is the difference between Midpoint and Davison as Your opinion? The attraction was instant. Jupiter in 1st house, Uranus in the 11th to bracket the party. Hi ameNow were talking about the differences between the Davison and the midpoint charts, and thats really too complicated a topic to go into here. My husband and I, have composite Saturn 27 Pluto 28 Libra in 12th, forming a T square to our Sun 26 Cancer and Venus 19/Mercury 23 Capricorn. Im kinda tired of dancing with men who enjoy attempting control and am tired of the endlessly unavailable creatures that keep crossing my path in life. I was immediately flooded with emotion- I realized all at once how intensely close to him I was and needed to know if he was ok, etc. we activate each others 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 10th and 11th houses also. I hope you are well during these strange and powerful times. Its part of me. When transit Saturn is in the composite 12th house, you may feel that old issues or subconscious issues in the relationship become more of a problem, and need to be worked on, understood, and moved on from. thank you for post! And yes, you need to put the natal charts around the composite to see how this is going to affect the individuals. Such a great article! Since then we got closer and closer and couldnt hold back our attraction. Astro-Seek.com Seek and meet people born on the same date as you . She has great remorse about it and is seeking help to try and put an end to it. Im trying to figure it out. It is not so much a question of choice, more that the universe has chosen for them to be together (at least, thats what it feels like). Moon in Aries/7th, Saturn in the 5th/Aquarius. thanks Dawn! Fame has its roots in the 12th because that is where we can serve as an example of a prime archetypewe can embody the zeitgeist of our age. Thank You so much for Your answer! I am a strong 12th house person- the sun in Libra conjunct Pluto/Mercury in Scorpio, with Saturn in Scorpio widely conjunct my Scorpio ascendent (I told you I was intense) and he has no planets in the 12th. Our composite sun is in the 7 house. He is a pisces rising with neptune conjunct his midheaven. Is it a dream come true, or a big lie? My 12 is in Leo, along with my Sun, Mercury, Mars and Pluto. And it KILLS ME! Are these water houses the culprits that keep pulling me back? Hi Daw Saturn is the heaviest aspected planet in this composite, which actually reinforces the intensity of the Moon/Saturn-opposite theme from synastry. Here we are, older, everything so different now, lessons learned, and I am seeing that I cant undo the past. I feel there is no Karmic tie to this person, my intuition leans more towards twin flame type status. @ more very amazing thing IF this is still not enough proof: My Moon and Mars conjucts his North Node (fairly tight 2-3 degrees conjuction) His NOrth Node conjucts His own Pluto (good old Pluto might just kill me with his north node conjuction (i wonder if that is the plan here?) You need to work on bringing body and mind together, as a couple. Pluto, Sun, Venus & Mercury in the 12th/Virgo. Arent these positive aspects good enough to sustain a relationship down-to-earth, telling me to forgive and try again or just simply blowing the matter worse and prolonging it?. I was the Sun/Ascendant person, while he was the Lilith person. Keteki says: May 7, 2012 at 4:21 pm . People who fight for justice for others often have Juno prominent in the chart. The midpoint chart reveals the relationship on another level entirely. The relationship only lasted a few months but for some reason it has left a deep-seated, soul-touching impression with me. We have Sun,mercury,venus and jupiter in 12th house virgo. You are interested in psychology, religion, spirituality too. Mysterious things attract you. That is really challenging chart I assume and I dont know whether I go for this guy or not. We are happy when were together but he took a job 2 hours away and moved into our country house which I have now come to hate. Since each of us share a natal 12th house dominion, then repeated in a shared composite strength, what you have said in your 12th house explanations all seem to feel so true. Thanks! You dont want, on the whole, a composite Mars in the 12th square to Neptune, unless you are missionaries or you plan to open up a swimming pool installation company. The relationship has been on & off, again and again for 28 years. etc. Several weeks ago, my wife revealed that she has been hiding a secret life of crushes and short-lived affairs from me over the past 4 years. Im not exactly sure what our future holds, but I do know we are exactly where we are supposed to be XOXO ~ Thank you for the lovely insights!!! My husband and I have composite sun conjunct Saturn in the 12th, composite moon conjunct Venus in the 1st. He knows me better than I know myself at times. My mars falls in his 12th and his moon falls in my 12th. Now I just have to sit and wait around where it is got to leave us! Like individuals with 12th house planets, couples with a lot of twelfth house may feel that there is something fated about their lives together. One of my longest relationships featured a Lilith-Sun/Ascendant conjunction in synastry. Definitely karmic and unbreakable. We are both married similar age kids. Similarly, the 4th house is used for Gemini, and information is extracted by reading it in the Natal charts. I had a relationship with someone, in our composite chart, we have a stellium in the 12th house Sun, Juno, Venus and Uranus. Instant connection, followed by a break up 5 days after, followed by getting back together 1 week later, on and off, on and off formally breaking up in 9 months, and yet professing how we never stopped loving each other two years after that (If you want to find someone else, if you want to marry someone else, I will not stop you, but know this. It has left a hole in my heart, (composite chiron conjunct asc) and I suffered from insomnia regretting I should or shouldnt have done. Im not quick to say its an illusion, but its not quite real either, and you can get into some dangerous territory in the 12th by telling yourself things that arent really true. I dont know whether this situation is karma? These are the couples who are magnetically attracted to one another and who, after making the necessary commitments, find themselves on strange and unfamiliar territory. Juno in the 12th means that there are unresolved issues surrounding equality in relationship and some sort of sacrifice in relationships will be necessary in order to discover that balance. I never understood that statement could you put some light on it for me? When the transit Moon is in the composite 12th house, you may want some alone time together, wanting to share feelings but only when alone and no one else is around. Natal Sun in Gemini and Venus in Cancer in the 12th, and Venus is conjunct my Cancer ASC. hi dawn This man can be my everything and this feeling will not change. We had an instant connection, and I ended up in his apartment the first night we met. Illusions yes I know. Love for loves sake wont fly with the 12th house. In astrology, the Twelfth House governs the unconscious, addiction, jails, higher self, and psychic abilities. Neptune is in the 4th, Libra. 08.05.20. One thing Ive noticed with these people is that other people usually notice their . Learn More. We also have composite Juno in Aquarius in the 4th house (opposing Mercury in the 10th and trining the Ascendant), and Venus tightly conjunct Saturn in the 11th (Leo). His natal Venus in cancer is in my 12house. But I think you can count on that Jupiter for evoking good will between you should you decide to reconcile. I dont have enough information, but the chart emphasis leads me to believe that you are right in your analysis, that the partnership finds its life in the upper houses. *Also in synastry- my Vesta conjunct NN in Gemini are the degree right before his Ascendant. where is very intense connection and I can feel things youve described but also I can see it as long term.. I love him more than Ive ever loved any man I knew immediately. Please advise if we can make it to marriage or our relationship is doomed. Lilith in 8 th house composite. I really feel like there is a wolf howling in a forest at night and I hear his call , I know I am the female wolf and that the call is for me and I have to go to him now. Transit Jupiter in the Composite 12th House. We dont really grasp whats in the 12th until we spiritualize it, remove the ego from the planets function. One valuable lesson I learned is to refrain being attached to an outcome with him. Lilith in Synastry. Im blessed to remember some past lives weve had and we have definitely come together to mend some old wounds and learn to forgive and love one another. A Venus in the 12th House man is a sweet, gentle, kind of person who likes to help both people and animals. But venus, mars, moon and vertex in the first house in pisces. In order to respect this aspect, we need to have reverence for all the cycles of life, not just the upswing. In my experience, if you have a good synastry but a difficult composite, the couple get along with one another but have problems establishing the relationship in the outside world. A share a composite chart with a stellium of planets (Sun, Mercury, Uranus, and Neptune) in the 12th house with cusp on Scorpio. Together, they like to dive deeper and deeper into unknown and mysterious beliefs, cultures, territories, and ideas. how this would manifest? You cant really know how an aspect is going to manifest without looking at the whole chart, but it is true that conjunctions from the 12th house side are very complex. Lilith in partner's 12th house may represent emotional outbursts, manipulations and obsessions. Is Your experience the same? It was a complicated, intense, spicy hot love affair that changed both of our lives. I was wondering about my composite contacts with some I know who we share 12th house themes with. Well, I m afraid I am precisely one of those people you talk about in the article , who experiment this weird illusion of being in telepathy with the unrequired love of their life. Noticed he has moved on and I want to let go and move on too, hoping that the story will not repeat itself again. Ive recently broke up with what was felt the love of my life the most pure and locvng relationship ever. My english is not very good. I herd that the good connections between the 1st house rulers and 7 th rulers are so important an the good saturn aspects also. Im also interested in anything about twin flame relationships. I have read your response about 12th house and i really do agree with you. When transit Pluto is in the composite 12th house, you may feel more powerful and connected in the relationship when its just the two of you, behind closed doors, no one to bother. What the twelfth house demands of us always is that we give the ego a rest, but often challenges regarding the ego are exactly what we have to face with twelfth house planets. The synastry can show the true about our relationship, and the Davison also but less than synastry, but the Composite chart can show almost nothing. The relationship is a very private one, we share many trips together, and special 12th house retreat time together. It will revolve around sorrow, secrets, fantasies, hidden desires, emotions, and everything that belongs to our little secrets without physical forms. I have my sun in the 12th house of my natal chart, and we both have venus in the 12th house of our natal charts. 12th House : A busy 12th house is very difficult in a composite chart, since it's the house of the unconscious feelings and all things hidden, so there will be a lot of miscommunication between the two. It may have felt like chaos, but later on we know that there was method to the madness. The weirdness of the 12th usually happens when one or both of the other parties has a heavy 12th influence in the natal. With 4, 8 and 12 emphasized, youll have to deal with one another in an emotionally honest way, no matter what karma you have to work out together. Dawn, thank you for writing this article. Ninety-three percent of her astro is in the 12th: the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Lilith, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus. However, Eros in the 12th may mean a less conscious eroticism drives the relationshipwe think we know what were doing but we may not, and may be subject to desires of all kinds. Regine. 4 months passed since then. He says what on thinking. the davison chart also has our moon, venus, saturn and uranus in the 1st. What do You think about Davison Chart? Please can someone find me some positive end result here because I have not too much hope after reading that article aboyt the 12 house and I am going insane because I can not really tell anyone what is going on in my life> (husband, kids or even him)I do not want to hurt anybodys life but that means I have to give up my love which is just to hurtful to do! The composite chart with the man Im involved with has an extremely tight Moon/Mars conjunction in the 12th, along with the North Node. The only way that you can figure out the main issue of karma in a relationship is to examine the nature of both Nodes and their rulers in the Composite, along with aspects to the Nodes. Anything different there? My daughter and I have a 12th house Sun-Moon conjunction (in Cancer) in our composite. Thats for start. This depends on how well Lilith energy is being handled in the synastry and natal chart. 00 Angel Number, 00 Angel Number Twin Flame. We challenge each other to be the best versions of ourselves. Happy holidays and thank you for this article. But, our composite chart is weird. We talk with each other and I know he loved me and still does like me , we talk in the church when we can but none of us really telling the real story (which is so 12 house thing). Lilith may help 12th house to bring their subconscious patterns to light, or do the opposite and evoke more fear. sounds pathetic, but thats just the nature of 12th house love; you cant downsize or decrease its feeling and meaning.. What a way to describe it ~ nebulous, yet mysteriously powerful influence on our lives or my life as far as i know, this was exactly how I confused myself in this short and intense relationship with an ex. Is Your experience the same? We both experienced he physically (I think) something weird when i was very close to him and I saw something mind boggling in the night when Venus turned retrograde this year. Hi annaMy feeling is that the word god is loaded, psychologically speaking. I might even say hes one of the closest people to me. The Moon/Mars (Virgo) sextiles a close Sun/Jupiter (Cancer) conjunction in the 10th, sextiles Uranus (Scorpio) in the 2nd, trines Ceres (Capricorn) in the 4th, and squares Neptune (Sagittarius) in the 3rd all very close aspects. The working dynamic of the partnership is in the biwheel (how do you make me feel?) Weve known each other for a decade??? With a lot of respect for all of your work and wishing you all the best. Thank you very much for the answer. I just am hesitating. They think no one cares whether they are present or absent. I wouldnt say that one is more important than another. What is your thought on this. There are two conjunctions with ascendent as well. My natal Venus conjuncts composite IC and his natal Mars conjuncts composite MC. WhiteLotus. The North Node in the 12 th House - Synastry. When transit Neptune is in the composite 12th house, you can explore your spiritual connection, and want to make sure that youre intuitively moving in the same direction. Our midpoint composit cannot show any true about our relationship. Your relationship usually starts out as a friendship or as "good friends". I will look into it. Aquarius rising at 29 degrees. We all have things we come in to this life to accomplish, achieve, or learn. The south node lies there on the natal composite. in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. Saturn and Uranus both have a lot to say about Aquarius. The area of the 12th house in which Black Moon Lilith makes a person experience their unconscious fears, pain, shame, and denial relates to their spiritual transcendence, self-undoing, and their ability to dive deeper into the mysteries of life.. That is why this article discusses a potentially enlightening topic. . Women may stay because they think, how the heck am i going to find a man Im this connected to? I have forgotten to say, as for HIS Lilith, its conjunct my Desc (orb -1) which is an interaspect I cant give meaning to, (too hard to analyse for me) but however, it also is a new lilith matter. I apologize for the mistakes, Im French and sometimes it is difficult to express in English . Youre a poet of poets. It isnt every case that the couple with a strong 12th house will break up. In composite, we have sun, mercury and part of fortune in the 12th. He eventually ended it because he was afraid wed go into a dark place with each other again- our relationship was very intense, and my insecurities and control issues combined with his youthful sloppiness are what destroyed it. (Not at all helped by the fact that his Venus is square to my Sun at exact degrees.) I use both in my practice. *Composite Chiron conjunct Moon in Taurus in 12th house. In general, a composite Jupiter in the second house makes a couple value a life lived on the grandest scale possible. And would that mean -lets say- if this persons partners personal planets conjuncts to his north node would he lose the partner or would he lose god because he put that person (her planets) between himself and god! We have met up a few times since then, but our feelings for each other were immediate and are exceptionally strong even without the benefit of an active physical relationship. The Composite Sun Through the Houses. Sun and Neptune both trine Lilith, who is in Pisces AND in house 12. IF THIS IS NOT A TRAGIC LOVE STORY THAN WHAT IS? What do you think? I loved him from the bottom of my heart. Everywords pounding in me. When Venus occupies the 12th house, it highlights a more mature and sophisticated expression of love. The lack of posturing and display of ego gives others the chance to have a "day in the sun," endearing the 12th house sun to the person they gave the chance to shine. What do You think about Davison Chart? Much depends on the relationship of the 12th house planets to one another. Watch out for substance abuse and addictions. I am 38 years old and have a Scorpio 12th house stellium (Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, and Neptune) so I am painfully, and blissfully, intimately aware of this energy. We go down a lot of wrong alleyways. Also my moon is conjuct to his sun both ways. Sadly, our Moon is square to Uranus and I suspect this might be one influence behind her decision to break off all contact with me. Sorry, aja, this is too much information to handle in this space. i give it much meaning because i really feel a psychic connection and a karmic fate, but again that could be just me since i have a heavy neptune but nothing in my natal 12th. Reply. Impossible to comment without seeing both charts. But i ran of him, i really dont understand why, it makes me feel so sad. I have a nice syntrastry with my boyfriend (im born 8/1/1983 and he is born 10/7/1982). Unfortunately, the 12th House is one of the hardest places for Lilith to be. Lots of greetings from Serbia. Couples where the 12th is strong can often experiencewell, lets say itNeptunian weirdness. Saturn and Pluto also play their part. Lilith here can even be drawn to cults. Lilith in 12th House: 5 Key Takeaways. Look at what sign the 12th house is in. Bright blessings to you. Sorry, Natalia, I cant really comment on this in the space available. Id appreciate any information. Thank You so much for Your answer! I fell onto another man after that whom I had a very deep dark sexual connection to and whom I shared a heavy 8th composite chart with. Our mars is in cap in 3rd house and mars in 11th house libra. Hi! (excuse my bad English) great post- thank you! Transit Mercury in the 12th House Meaning, Transit Birth Chart, Mercury Astrology Free Interpretations . By the way loved your above article and thank you for any info you provide : ) x, Thanks for writing this article. For whatever reason, you may have a secret relationship . so beautiful and so healing especially the last paragraph. Lilith in the Twelfth House of Astrology (Explained) June 3, 2022 by Wisdom Tavern. The composite chart only reveals so muchcomparing natal charts tells us about the day to day of the people involved, their reactions to one another, their attractions, etc. And I learned a lot too. Thanks a lot Dawn, now I understand it. The same person I've had mutual 12th house synastry with has sun in 12th house composite with me. It can also mean, in this case, unconscious elements making themselves known via the Ascendant in mysterious ways. She says that she has been uncertain about her attraction to me from the beginning and is just really confused because she does love me. Just as the Sun is the Luminary of the day, the Moon is the Luminary of the night. Hi Dawn, are you able to give me anymore insight or know where I might find more information about 12th house stellium in cancer planets are sun,moon,Mercury and Venus in my husband and my composite chart.

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